On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill in War and Society

· Hachette Audio · Narrated by Lieutenant Colonel Dave Grossman
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The revised and updated edition of Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's modern classic about the psychology of combat.

"An illuminating account of how soldiers learn to kill and how they live with the experiences of having killed." —Washington Post

The twentieth century, with its bloody world wars, revolutions, and genocides accounting for hundreds of millions dead, would seem to prove that human beings are incredibly vicious predators and that killing is as natural as eating. But Lieutenant Colonel Dave Grossman, a psychologist and U.S. Army Ranger, demonstrates this is not the case. The good news, according to Grossman—drawing on dozens of interviews, first-person reports, and historic studies of combat, ranging from Frederick the Great's battles in the eighteenth century through Vietnam—is that the vast majority of soldiers are loath to kill. In World War II, for instance, only 15 to 25 percent of combat infantry were willing to fire their rifles.

The provocative news is that modern armies, using Pavlovian and operant conditioning, have learned how to overcome this reluctance. In Korea about 50 percent of combat infantry were willing to shoot, and in Vietnam the figure rose to over 90 percent. The bad news is that by conditioning soldiers to overcome their instinctive loathing of killing, we have drastically increased post-combat stress—witness the devastated psychological state of our Vietnam vets as compared with those from earlier wars. And the truly terrible news is that contemporary civilian society, particularly the media, replicates the army's conditioning techniques and—according to Grossman's controversial thesis—is responsible for our rising rates of murder and violence, particularly among the young.

In the explosive last section of the book, he argues that high-body-count movies, television violence (both news and entertainment), and interactive point-and-shoot video games are dangerously similar to the training programs that dehumanize the enemy, desensitize soldiers to the psychological ramifications of killing, and make pulling the trigger an automatic response.

The revised and updated edition of Lt. Col. Dave Grossman's modern classic about the psychology of combat. "An illuminating account of how soldiers learn to kill and how they live with the experiences of having killed." —Washington Post The twentieth century, with its bloody world wars, revolutio...

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25 reviews
Jonathan Lopes
July 5, 2023
very heavy book on the psychology of killing and its affect on both psychiatric casualties in historical wars like vietnam and ww2 and the desensitization of violence as a consequence of media romanticization of lawless and vengeful protagonists who hold vengeance and chaos over order and the law. most of the book is testimonials and citations of other writings and experiences of veterans and their perspectives on the topic itself and how it emotionally affected them years later.
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Santiago Vargas
July 17, 2023
Very thorough.
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mslykins79
June 26, 2018
Very informative
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A former army Ranger and paratrooper, Lt. Col. Dave Grossman taught psychology at West Point and is currently the professor of Military Science at Arkansas State University.
A former army Ranger and paratrooper, Lt. Col. Dave Grossman taught psychology at West Point and is currently the professor of Military Science at Arkansas State University.

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